Showing posts with label Austerlitz. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Austerlitz. Show all posts

Wednesday, February 28, 2018

1805: Austerlitz by Robert Goetz

Robert Goetz
(Red letters on black background...)

I read this book after reading Scott Bowden's book.  I was just expecting a repeat and was very pleasantly surprised it that it covered the subject matter slightly differently so that the two books interleaved rather than overlapped.

This is all part of my research for the Austerlitz project.  I've done the Order of Battle more or less (one for Bowden and one for Goetz).  I still have the Osprey Campaign book(s) to read and F G Hourtoulle's Austerlitz - The Empire at its Zenith (although I bought that more for it's uniform pictures that I found irresistible), but my next challenge is to the play the boardgame of the battle that I have (Napoleon at Austerlitz that appeared in The Wargamer Number 17 - issued in 1981).  My current aim being to get a feel for the required terrain as that seems to be the next big challenge in order to progress the project.

Meanwhile I'm continuing to work on the figures required for the battle.

Goetz wrote his book in 2005 after Bowden's book (which was published in 1997) and as  a result he makes reference to it when discussing various aspects of the battle, particularly the number of troops engaged.

While very much focussed on the battle, I enjoyed his summary of the outcomes of this unique battle which had such a wide ranging impact on the politics of the day.

When it comes to the Austerlitz scenario I can see a need for two: one would commit the Allies very much to their plan, while a second would give them more freedom to react (such as if Alexander had better advice and acted on it).  Both could be challenging, but we will see.

My current thinking is to look at three depictions of the battlefield.  One is to shrink it to 9x5, the standard for Napoleon's Battles.  Another is to go to 12x5 which would seem based on my calculations so far to fit most of the battle in.  Finally, there is the option of breaking the battle into its various parts.  All of these options are attractive and I'm hoping that the work done on one will readily facilitate the others.



Friday, December 22, 2017

Austerlitz OOB - Comparison of Bowden vs Goetz

I'm probably over doing this, but the comparison is relatively easy to do, and so, why not...

French


General Bowden Goetz
Grande Armee Napoleon (4) (4)
Imperial Guard Bessieres (2) (2)
Infantry of the Imperial Guard
1st Brigade Hulin  16FrOG 16FrOG
2nd Brigade Soules 16FrOG 16FrOG
3rd Brigade Lecchi - -
Cavalry of the Imperial Guard
1st Brigade Ordener 12FrGHC 12FrGHC
2nd Brigade Morland - -
Artillery of the Imperial Guard
1st Company  FrG8# FrG8#
2nd Company FrG8# FrG8#
Royal Italian Guard ItG8# ItG8#
Grenadiers de la Reserve Oudinot (1) (1)
2nd Brigade Dupas 20FrGN 20FrGN
3rd Brigade Ruffin - -
Duroc (1) (1)
1st Brigade Laplanche 16FrGN 16FrGN
1st Corps Bernadotte (2) (2)
1st Infantry Division Rivaud (1) (1)
1st Brigade Dumoulin 16FrLN 28FrLN
2nd Brigade Pacthod 24FrLN 12FLN
2nd Coy 3rd Reg Fr6# Fr6#
2nd Infantry Division Drouet (1) (1)
1st Brigade Frere 20FrLT 20FrLT
2nd Brigade Werle 28FrLN 28FrLN
3rd Coy 3rd Reg Fr6# Fr6#
3rd Corps Davout (2) (2)
2nd Infantry Division Friant (1) (1)
Advance Guard Bierre 24FrLN 24FrLN
1st Brigade Kister - -
2nd Brigade Lochet - -
1st Coy 5th Reg Fr8# Half Fr8# Half
4th Dragoon Division Bourcier (1) (1)
1st Brigade Laplanche 8FrLC 12FrLC
2nd Brigade Sahuc - 12FrLC
3rd Brigade - -
3rd Coy 2nd Reg Fr8# Half Fr8# Half
4th Corps Soult (2) (2)
1st Infantry Division St Hilaire (1) (1)
1st Brigade Morand 12FrLT 12FrLT
2nd Brigade Thiebault 24FrLN 28FrLN
3rd Brigade Vare 28FrLN 28FrLN
2nd Infantry Division Vandamme (1) (1)
1st Brigade Schiner 12FrLT 12FrLT
2nd Brigade Ferrey 28FrLN 28FrLN
3rd Brigade Candras 24FrLN 28FrLN
3rd Infantry Division Legrand (1) (1)
1st Brigade Merle 20FrLT 16FrLT
2nd Brigade Fery 16FrLN 28FrLN
3rd Brigade Lavasseur 24FrLN 20FrLN
4th Corps Light Cavalry Division Margaron (1) (1)
1st Brigade Margaron 12FrLC 8FrLC
4th Coy 5th Reg Fr8# Fr8#
3rd Dragoon Division Boye (1) (1)
1st Brigade Boye 20FrLC 12FrLC
2nd Brigade Scalfort - 8FrLC
3rd Brigade Milhaud - -
3rd Coy 2nd Reg Fr8# Half Fr8# Half
4th Corps Artillery Reserve
17th & 18th Coy 5th Reg Fr12# Fr12#
5th Corps Lannes (2) (2)
3rd Infantry Division Suchet (1) (1)
1st Brigade Claparede 12FrLT 12FrLT
2nd Brigade Beker 24FrLN 24FrLN
3rd Brigade Valhubert 20FrLN 20FrLN
1st Infantry Division Caffarelli (1) (1)
1st Brigade Demont 20FrLN 20FrLN
2nd Brigade Debilly 20FrLN 20FrLN
3rd Brigade Eppler 12FrLT 12FrLT
2nd Dragoon Division Walther (1) (1)
1st Brigade Sebastini 12FrLC 12FrLC
2nd Brigade Roget - -
3rd Brigade Boussart - -
2nd Coy 2nd Reg Fr8# Half Fr8# Half
Corps des Reserve Cavalerie Murat (2) (2)
1st Heavy Cavalry Division Nansouty (1) (1)
1st Brigade Piston 20FrHC 20FrHC
2nd Brigade La Houssaye - -
3rd Brigade Saint-Germain - -
4th Coy 2nd Reg - Fr6# Half
2nd Heavy Cavalry Division d'Hautpoul (1) (1)
1st Brigade Noirot 16FrHC 12FrHC
2nd Brigade Saint-Sulpice - -
4th Coy 2nd Reg - Fr6# Half
Light Cavalry Brigade Milhaud (1) (1)
1st Brigade Milhaud 8FrLC 8FrLC
1st Corps Light Cavalry Division Kellerman (1) (1)
1st Brigade Van Marisy 16FrLC 8FrLC
2nd Brigade Picard - 8FrLC
1st Coy 3rd Reg Fr6# -
5th Corps Light Cavalry Division Fauconnet (1) -
1st Brigade Treillard 12FrLC 8FrLC
2nd Brigade Fauconnet - -

Nothing too dramatic and a few are just different allocation of regiments to brigades.  As Napoleon's Battles is a brigade level (which includes large three battalion style regiments) ruleset I tend to prefer when adapting actual OOBs to NB to preserve brigade structures where possible.  This has become easier with the 4th Edition that readily caters for small units (less than 16 figure infantry and 12 figure cavalry).  Of course this is something that can be actually configured to the individual figure, but that would mean starting off with loss markers in some cases and there is already plenty of counters and labels to deal with.

The main thing that I might change is the preponderance of half batteries of horse artillery.  Something to test out as well as research in my reading up on the battle.

Allies

General Bowden Goetz
Combined Russian and Austrian Army
The Tsar Alexander I (4) (4)
Commander of the I. II. and III. Columns Buxhowden (3) (3)
Commander of the Austrian Contingent Liechtenstein 1 (-) (-)
Advance Guard of the I. Column Kienmayer (1) (1)
1st Brigade Carneville 24AsGZ 20AsGZ
2nd Brigade Stutterhiem 8AsLC 8AsLC
Artillery As6# As6#
Artillery As6# -
3rd Brigade Nostitz 8AsLC 8AsLC
4th Brigade Moritz 8AsLC 8AsLC
I. Column Dokhturov (1) (1)
1st Brigade Lewis 20RsLN 28RsLN
2nd Brigade Urasov 24RsLN 28RsLN
3rd Brigade 16RsLN 28RsLN
Artillery Rs12# Rs12#
Artillery Rs12# Rs12#
Artillery Rs12# Rs12#
Artillery Rs12# Rs12#
II. Column Langeron (1) (1)
Viborg 16RsLN 16RsLN
Kursk 16RsLN 16RsLN
Perm 16RsLN 16RsLN
Fanagoria 16RsGN 16RsGN
Ryazan 16RsLN 16RsLN
III. Column Preobreshensky (1) (1)
1st Brigade Muller III 20RsLN 20RsLN
2nd Brigade Strik 12RsLN 28RsLN
3rd Brigade Loshakov 12RsLN 20RsLN
IV. Column - -
Russians Miloradovich (1) (1)
1st Brigade Berg 12RsGN 12RsGN
2nd Brigade Repninsky 12RsLN 24RsLN
Artillery Rs12# Rs12#
Artillery Rs12# Rs12#
Austrians Kolowrat (1) (1)
Austrian Brigade Rottermund 28AsLN 28AsLN
Austrian Brigade Jurczik 24AsLN 28AsLN
Austrian Brigade 24AsLN -
Artillery As12# As12#
Artillery As12# -
V. Column Liechtenstein (2) (2)
Austrian Cavalry Hohenlohe 2 (1) (1)
1st & 2nd Brigade Caramelli/Weber 12AsHC 12AsHC
Artillery As6# As6#
Russian Cavalry Essen II (1) (1)
1st Brigade Penitzki 12RsLC 12RsLC
Constantine Uhlans - 16RsLC
Cossacks - 12RsCLC
2nd Brigade Uvarov 20RsLC 20RsLC
Elisabetgrad Uhlans - 16RsLC
Cossacks 8RsCLC 8RsLC
Artillery Rs6# Rs6#
Artillery Rs6# Rs6#
Artillery Rs6# Rs6#
Advanced Guard Bagration (1) (1)
1st Brigade Dolgoruky 16RsJG 16RsJG
2nd Brigade Kamensky II 16RsLN 16RsLN
3rd Brigade Engelhardt 28RsLN 16RsLN
4th Brigade Wittgenstein 16RsLC 16RsLC
5th Brigade Voropaitzki 20RsLC 20RsLC
Res Cavalry - 12RsLC
Cossacks Chaplits 12RsCLC 12RsCLC
Artillery Rs6# Rs6#
Artillery Rs6# Rs6#
Artillery As6# -
Artillery As6# -
Russian Imperial Guard Constantine (2) (2)
Infantry of the Guard Maliutin  (1) (1)
1st Brigade Depreradovich 28RsGD 28RsGD
2nd Brigade Lobanov 16RsGD 28RsGD
Cavalry of the Guard Kologrivov  (1) (1)
1st Brigade Jankovich 12RsGLC 12RsGLC
2nd Brigade Depreradovich II 20RsGHC 20RsGHC
Artillery RsG6# RsG6#
Artillery RsG6# RsG6#
Artillery RsG12# RsG12#
Artillery RsG12# RsG12#

Not too strikingly different, but there are four extra cavalry units, and an extra 18 infantry bases.  A few less guns and one Austrian infantry unit excluded.

My preference remains to treat these as two OOBs and hopefully play the game a few times seeing what difference the OOBs make.

The real challenge is getting the terrain determined along with the starting positions etc.

Sunday, December 17, 2017

Austerlitz Muster - Part Two

Almost two years ago I posted Part One of this project.  All the French have now been ready for some time, it has just taken a while to catch up with Stephen to see what gaps exist with the Austrians and Russians.  Today we did that.

The Order of Battle is based on Scott Bowden's book.  I might also produce one based on Goetz's book.

 We worked on the Austrains first.
All Stephen's except the 28AsLN in the bottom right hand corner.

 His infantry are pretty close to the right basing for Napoleon's Battles,
the cavalry and artillery (in some cases) less so.

 Buxhowden with the Advance Guard of Column I along with Columns I, II and III.
There are two 8AsLC units that need a few more figures.

A snip of the list.  The third to last column is the number of men or guns and the final column is the number of bases that is then rounded to get the Napoleon's Battles' unit (the ninth column).

 The Advance Guard and the Russian Imperial Guard.

Still have to check the classification of Voropaitzki's cavalry and arrival times of two Austrian batteries.

Liechtenstein with the IV and V Columns.

The other two columns making up the Allied force.  
These big formations are going to be a challenge for them to manage.

We are missing a Supreme Commander base featuring Alexander.  I've just about finished painting up some replacement Austrian batteries and have some Russian Horse Artillery that I am planning to do.

It will only be the cavalry that don't conform to the Napoleon's Battles' basing and movement trays and labels will have to deal with that.

Tuesday, January 12, 2016

Austerlitz Muster - Part One

One of my projects for 2016 is to do Austerlitz using Napoleon's Battles.  I will be using Scott Bowden's book "The Glory Years - Napoleon and Austerlitz" as my main source.  It has an excellent Order of Battle with which I have now completed a first pass at creating a OoB for Napoleon's Battles.  It might get revised based on points calculations (balancing) between the two forces and to reflect any significant force structure variations I come across based on reading about the battle, but I expect these to be minor.

I can just about do everything for the French.  Stephen N is checking his Austrians and Russians and I also expect Richard to be able to field them as well, which should mean plenty of opportunities to play out the scenario.

This is the Imperial Guard.  The only aspect re the OoB that I'm not happy with is lack of divisional commanders for the infantry and cavalry of the Imperial Guard (as distinct from the attached grenadiers).  With respect to the figures my Napoleon stand is rather tired and I really should use Guard Horse Artillery figures rather than foot, but these are all in the nice to have category. 

2nd and 3rd Corps, just missing 8FrLC (dragoons).

4th Corps, missing five divisional level generals and 20FrLC (dragoons).

5th Corps complete.

Reserve Cavalry missing Murat as the Corps commander.

General figures I have in the lead mountain, but the dragoons I will have to order.  With an eye to what I can muster for Waterloo, these additions will also fill gaps with that OoB.